Curse

MisterB · Aug 13, 2010, 02:50 AM // 02:50

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

EDIT: Oh sweet Yahweh! I didn't even think about WW+WD. That's so....wrong...

Indeed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Karate Jesus · Aug 13, 2010, 02:52 AM // 02:52

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Originally Posted by MisterB

Indeed. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

I think I'd rather be diversion'd, VoR'd, or Backfire'd than take 250 armor-ignoring AoE damage.

hitsuji182 · Aug 13, 2010, 02:55 AM // 02:55

I just made a quick test and honestly it's not as powerfull as it looks.

Karate Jesus · Aug 13, 2010, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by hitsuji182

I just made a quick test and honestly it's not as powerfull as it looks.

250 armor-ignoring, AoE, spammable damage is "not as powerful as it looks"? Um...what?

To be fair....it is pretty hilarious in PvE. Panic+WW+WD is basically PvE on cruise control, not that PvE wasn't already on cruise control....

Malla13 · Aug 13, 2010, 04:59 AM // 04:59

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Originally Posted by Ghost Dog

Generic negative comment toward arena net!

I lol'd.

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Cuilan · Aug 13, 2010, 05:03 AM // 05:03

Where are all the ritualist and assassin nerfs? How is it Anet is so focused screwing with skill changes that aren't needed or are less serious? Stupid stunts like this that make people jaded and complain.

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Originally Posted by Malla13

I lol'd.

Well what do you expect such updates?

Owik Gall · Aug 13, 2010, 06:04 AM // 06:04

Don't forget about Overload. It might add into the Mes cluster-mess-you-up fiasco. I am honestly trying to be optimistic about this, but it's really giving me the feeling that there will be rage quitters in RA pretty soon.

HigherMinion · Aug 13, 2010, 06:13 AM // 06:13

Bah! They still haven't bothered fixing SF's bug, have they? Atleast pick a profession who's skills haven't been already changed ten times in the past two months. ><

locao · Aug 13, 2010, 06:46 AM // 06:46

well i guess its hard to balance a game where u have so many combinations of 2 professions skills like gw.u fix one problem and u may be creating another and anet knows they'll not be able to balance it.i think thats the reason who drove them to make gw 2 one profession only

Desert Rose · Aug 13, 2010, 07:15 AM // 07:15

How do you guys coming up with 250 damage? If Wastrel's Demise functions like SH it should deal 10+10, 10+20, 10+30, 10+40, 10+50 = 200 damage.

Amy Awien · Aug 13, 2010, 07:26 AM // 07:26

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Originally Posted by Cuilan

Wastrel's Demise is adjacent and really it's just 11 damage at 16 domination.

Read it again (1) it's every second and (2) every second an additional 1..8 for every second the hex was active.

When left without being removed, at 12 dom it will do 120 damage, AoE.

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The Overload change ...

As hex it doesn't 'work' with Mind Wrack anymore. Might have been rather neccesary to do this.

Wish Swiftdeath · Aug 13, 2010, 07:30 AM // 07:30

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Originally Posted by Karate Jesus

I think I'd rather be diversion'd, VoR'd, or Backfire'd than take 250 armor-ignoring AoE damage.

I wouldn't want to get diversioned.

Besides I'm pretty certain that since it ends on skill if you cast a hex removal it will won't stop the hex below it getting removed like wastrels worry. So it's only good with diversion/shame under it unless he's running veil.

Ka Tet · Aug 13, 2010, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

Read it again (1) it's every second and (2) every second an additional 1..8 for every second the hex was active.

When left without being removed, at 12 dom it will do 120 damage, AoE.

Unless I am misunderstanding how it functions, at 12 Dom it should do 160 damage. Pulse that hits at the end of second: [1]16 [2]24 [3]32 [4]40 [5]48.

edit: I would assume it would function slightly different from SH, where the pulse hits on contact, rather than delayed to the end of the second. I could be wrong about this though.

Karate Jesus · Aug 13, 2010, 08:53 AM // 08:53

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Originally Posted by Desert Rose

How do you guys coming up with 250 damage? If Wastrel's Demise functions like SH it should deal 10+10, 10+20, 10+30, 10+40, 10+50 = 200 damage.

250 damage is from Wastrel's Demise AND Wastrel's Worry (because they will always be used together now) @ 12+1+2 Dom, the standard now.

WD does 150 damage (10, 10+10, 10+20, 10+30, 10+40 = 150), but everyone will use it with WW now, because together they're insane AoE damage and great cover hexes for skills like diversion.

RA is going to suuuuuuck.

Cuilan · Aug 13, 2010, 08:54 AM // 08:54

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Originally Posted by Amy Awien

As hex it doesn't 'work' with Mind Wrack anymore. Might have been rather neccesary to do this.

How bout you read the skill? They killed the recharge.

Femmefatal · Aug 13, 2010, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by The Drunkard

WD damage doesn't go through SF...lame

lol @ you lol

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RA is going to suuuuuuck.

I'm waiting for you! <sirens song>

Mintha Syl · Aug 13, 2010, 10:18 AM // 10:18

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Originally Posted by Black Metal

I'm wondering if "using a skill", in terms of a spell, means casting must be successful, or merely starting to cast it. If the spell has to be successfully cast, then Panic will stop that, allowing WD to complete.

Both Panic and WD have fast recharges, so if you can ball up enemies, that's a pretty sweet mes nuke.

As far as I've seen starting the cast is enough to end wastrel's effect. But maybe with a PI knockdown....uhm need to try this new version, I was already having lot of fun with WW, let's see this.

Coast · Aug 13, 2010, 10:32 AM // 10:32

probably also nice if paired with some nice kds from either an axe or hammerwar

Hells Fury · Aug 13, 2010, 10:41 AM // 10:41

Yay skill update shuffling. And i don't mind at all. At least we get some. Change skills until satisfied.

fowlero · Aug 13, 2010, 12:05 PM // 12:05

Since people are struggling at how demise works.

It's another packet for every second it's been active, so at 15 dom.

10 + 20 + 30 + 40 + 50 = 150